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Jun 29, 2023

Welcome to episode 142 of Activist #MMT. Today's the final part of my three-part conversation with Emily Ruhl, on his 2008 paper, Religiously-defensible, divinely-supported genocide. Today we discuss principles seven to ten. My full and detailed question and summary list can be found in the show notes to part one. Also, be sure to see the list "audio chapters" in all three parts (look below!) to find exactly where each topic is discussed.


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And now, let's get right back to my conversation with Emily Ruhl. Enjoy.

Audio chapters

  • 3:01 - Different levels of Nazis: killing versus deciding who to kill (doctors, commandants, soldiers)
  • 6:44 - Symbols as an expression and reminder of power (pledge of allegiance)
  • 8:02 - Charismatization: The charisma of the individual, and of the world (institutions) around him — including reactions to him.
  • 18:17 - Calmly stirring up the crowd into a frenzy, and further into genocide.
  • 19:03 - The pursuit of Atlantis and the holy grail (Indians Jones)
  • 28:10 - Nazi pseudo-religion is a tool to justify genocide. False economics is a tool to justify mass neglect and exploitation.
  • 34:44 - Connecting false economics and Nazi Germany's pseudo-religion
  • 38:47 - In the national context, there is no such thing as "finding money" Their decision to do something IS the the funding.
  • 41:38 - Final question: Polanyi, "latent anti-Semetism" versus venting frustrations from a lifetime of mass neglect and exploitation
  • 51:00 - Reality of hyperinflation, the treaty of Versailles
  • 52:28 - Final comments
  • 54:44 - Goodbyes